Kerri Rivera joins me to discuss her work with chlorine dioxide, autism and more. Chlorine dioxide should be an essential part of anyone's home first aid kit.
ClO2 is used by the paper industry to bleach wood pulp. It replaced chlorine a few years ago. It is also used as a disinfectant, so if you believe in Germ Theory and feel a need to kill pesky germs, go for it. But I don’t really want you all to be victims of natural selection.
I just pasted this in from a ClO2 Safety Data Sheet which the chemical, household products and pharmaceutical industries would have to review before ordering the stuff or using it in their products. They are available for most known chemicals.
"Chlorine dioxide is an oxidising gas, which oxidises haemoglobin in the blood to methaemoglobin. This leads to a lack of oxygen in body tissue since methaemoglobin does not have the same ability to transport oxygen."
"SYMPTOMS (chlorine dioxide gas)
Initially, chlorine dioxide affects the eyes, skin and airways. Normal symptoms of over- exposure are coughing, pallid skin, headache, fatigue, nausea, breathing difficulties and irritation to the eyes, skin and mucous membranes. The first symptoms appear immediately.
Acute over-exposure can cause bronchitis, pneumonia and pulmonary oedema."
"INHALATION
Inhalation causes irritation of the mucous membranes.
Skin and eyes
Chlorine dioxide aqueous solution is an eye and skin irritant.
Chronic exposure may lead to lung damage and damage to the teeth."
We are told that antioxidants are essential because they neutralize pro-oxidants (like ClO2). So why not simply stop taking antioxidants and let the oxidants do their thing?
For autism, caused mostly by the aluminium in the jabs, check into the work of Chris Exley. 40 years of studying this metal and the 37 diseases associated with it. He has shown that drinking water rich in silicic acid can (in some cases) lead to a reduction in the body’s aluminium load. Some kids genuinely recover. A friend of mine in Cleveland OH recovered from Alzheimer’s using this protocol along with exercise and a mostly whole food plant based diet. It took about 6 months.
If ClO2 is somehow involved in the removal of aluminium from the brain then it would be interesting to see the science. But I don’t expect to see that. BTW we know it’s aluminium because the brains of adolescents unfortunate enough to die with this condition were analyzed by Chris Exley’s team and found to have very high levels of Al in the glial cells, versus healthy brain controls.
A good book about illness is “What Really Makes You Ill” published in 2019. Also "Virus Mania" and "Can You Catch a Cold?” To read about the myth of safe and effective vaccinations “Dissolving Illusions". Exley's book is "Imagine You Are An Aluminum Atom"
So "gotten rid of" is the scientific term for remove. I'll make a note of that. The key is how do you measure success? With silicic acid it is detecting a rise in aluminum in the urine. If ClO2 is working then aluminum should also spike in the urine. BTW Brett I checked retention times of ClO2 and google finds 72 hours - but I suppose that depends on the initial concentration. ClO2 is so reactive that I doubt if arrives in its virgin form to the brain where the aluminum is lodged. There will be all kinds of CL02 metabolites running around. If I am wrong and you had aluminum hydroxide reacting directly with ClO2 then the reaction product is aluminum chlorate. Aluminum chlorate is toxic due to its ability to interfere with the blood's ability to carry oxygen and cause damage to the kidneys and other organ. Out of the frying pan and .........
interesting. Thanks for your comment. So, I did some more digging. Turns out that ClO2 degrades into chloride ions within 1-2 hours. The chloride ions are eliminated within 24-72 hours. Here's where I was wrong on another comment elsewhere: chloride ions do not readily bind to aluminum because aluminum is tightly bound to proteins and organic molecules like citrate and transferrin. This makes it very stable (perhaps why it is so difficult to detoxify?). A quick search online and it turns out that 1) free aluminum ions are not readily found in the body, 2) because Chloride ions are excreted relatively quickly, they do not bind to aluminum, and 3) there’s minimal scientific evidence suggesting biologically meaningful or stable complexes between chloride ions from chlorine dioxide and aluminum ions within human tissues or fluids.
Brett, I doubt if it's chloride (CL-1). More likely chlorite ion which is CL02- In order to explain this extra electron it must have been stolen from an electron donor like a water molecule. So let's do a google.... "When chlorine dioxide (ClO₂) dissolves in water, it breaks down into chlorite ions (ClO₂⁻) and a proton (H⁺), represented by the formula: ClO₂ + H₂O → ClO₂⁻ + H⁺. "
This proton is probably attached to a water molecule as in H3O+. So this would be acidic. On another note I just checked Exley's book pg 114 to see what form aluminum might be in the brain. He proposes (ALO2)2+. (proven only in computer simulations) Further he says that much of the damage is oxidative. So what are we doing using a powerful oxidant like ClO2 to remove an oxidant? Pg 115 gets a bit geeky but suggests copper could be protective.
In the studies I've looked at, 87% is broken down into chloride ions and 11% into chlorite ions. Chloride ions are highly soluble and abundant, and usually remain free in solution as electrolytes, maintaining ionic balance and acid-base regulation, water balance and electrical conductivity. As. for as the AL ions and the oxidant/antioxidant discussion goes, this is something I would have to look into. It gets super technical and right now, defending chlorine dioxide is not a top priority for me. We have much bigger fish to fry so to speak.
A chelator of aluminum is probably the correct term here. I’m not sure what “neutralization” of aluminum is technically speaking. Do you have more info on that?
Thanks for your comments. I’ve had the pleasure of interviewing Chris 2 or 3 times over the years and know Suzanne Humphries’ work well. I’ve also been raising awareness around vaccine risks for many years now; long before the PLANdemic.
I don’t have time to get in the weeds here. I don’t live in a world of absolutes either. Everything is nuanced, and in the true spirit of holistic health and the “terrain model”, every case is slightly different from one another.
Re CD: this dissipates in under 45 mins so there’s no long term disruption of redox reactions. Also, Kerri is not ONLY using CD in her protocols. She is addressing the whole and the individual on a case by case basis.
Re AL: while Exley proved that AL conversations were highest in autistic brains, this is not the whole picture. We have to consider the downstream impacts of AL in brain (and by extension) body function. Why do autistic individuals improve so significantly when they go gluten-free? Or dairy free? Or carnivore? Long term research with scientists friends of mine have shown radical improvements with long term supplementing of sulfurophane (broccoli extract). Why is this? None of these things directly affects AL in the body.
Re silicon rich water: Exley has said that based on STUDIES, silicon rich water binds to AL. He’s also said that 1) this is great for prevention and 2) this is a safe, slow method for detoxification (not fast). There’s also only one brand that has sufficient amounts of silicon, which is Fuji brand (not available everywhere). You have to be very consistent over long periods which is not doable for most people. I think you get the idea.
I’m not going to get into the whole germ theory debate here suffice to say that when microbes are out of balance due to terrain disruptions, they release toxins and metabolic byproducts which wreak havoc on the body. My approach as a clinician has always been to strengthen the terrain while also getting microbe levels under control at the same time. Again, there is a LONG conversation here with plenty nuance so please don’t misconstrue or misrepresent what I’m saying here (unfortunately quite pervasive in the “health freedom” movement). Cheers
As far as the dietary changes benefiting autism I remember Andy Wakefield saying that the autistic child's gut microbiome after the MMR was severely disrupted. e.g. Constipation, diarrhoea & blood in the feces. Perhaps the dietary changes you mention are helping the gut to heal and therefore benefiting the brain downstream? Maybe this is irrelevant... "Gluten free" reminds me.....according to 40 studies Tom Cowan was discussing in 2022, "vitamin D" supplement toxicity includes celiac disease, disruption of the gut microbiome and an increase in the absorption of toxic metals including aluminium. Kids are getting a very complicated toxic cocktail that makes it hard to track down root causes. Was it the jab or the prenatal supplements or an interaction? I pity the kids getting jabbed with aluminium then dosed with cholecalciferol washed down with fluoride in the water. Cheers
There is a lot going on with autistic kids. You are absolutely correct when you say a "toxic cocktail". Vaccines (and their ingredients) are one component of this but then you also have the RoundUp (glyphosate) picture. Dr Senneff has done some painstaking research in this area. The increased use of RoundUp plots perfectly with the increased rates of autism. Disruptions to the gut microbiome are huge too. There is also the question of MTHFR SNP's. I think this is where uncontrolled inflammation, poor detoxification, and a host of other health effects come in. All that to say that a multi-pronged, holistic approach is truly the way forward here. We must use all the tools available to us.
Thanks for the response. Exley has also said that aluminium is in every cell in the body. My grandson was borderline autistic - the worst symptom was screaming loudly and violent outbursts. Socially he was OK and no OCD. He has been drinking a mineral water here (Germany) called Bad Brambacher which has about 35 mg/L of silicic acid (Volvic and one particular brand of Gerolsteiner also good). So at the age of 8 now the outbursts are almost gone. Just a bit loud when he is very tired. Rather than broccoli extract we make sure he gets his greens (he is a little "Kraut" after all). I have been enjoying some of Daniel Roytas recent talks about vitamin supplements, parasites and molds. Also Roman Bystrianyk has been turning the Dissolving IIlusions" book into bite sized videos....we have not really come very far in our thinking since 1796 when people thought it was a good idea to scratch pus from animals and corpses into our skin to prevent disease. Cheers
Amazing! Thanks for sharing the story about your grandson. There is so much that we can do. As mentioned above, a holistic, multi-pronged approach is key. And the first step in that is cleaning up the influx of garbage coming into the body.
ClO2 is used by the paper industry to bleach wood pulp. It replaced chlorine a few years ago. It is also used as a disinfectant, so if you believe in Germ Theory and feel a need to kill pesky germs, go for it. But I don’t really want you all to be victims of natural selection.
I just pasted this in from a ClO2 Safety Data Sheet which the chemical, household products and pharmaceutical industries would have to review before ordering the stuff or using it in their products. They are available for most known chemicals.
"Chlorine dioxide is an oxidising gas, which oxidises haemoglobin in the blood to methaemoglobin. This leads to a lack of oxygen in body tissue since methaemoglobin does not have the same ability to transport oxygen."
"SYMPTOMS (chlorine dioxide gas)
Initially, chlorine dioxide affects the eyes, skin and airways. Normal symptoms of over- exposure are coughing, pallid skin, headache, fatigue, nausea, breathing difficulties and irritation to the eyes, skin and mucous membranes. The first symptoms appear immediately.
Acute over-exposure can cause bronchitis, pneumonia and pulmonary oedema."
"INHALATION
Inhalation causes irritation of the mucous membranes.
Skin and eyes
Chlorine dioxide aqueous solution is an eye and skin irritant.
Chronic exposure may lead to lung damage and damage to the teeth."
We are told that antioxidants are essential because they neutralize pro-oxidants (like ClO2). So why not simply stop taking antioxidants and let the oxidants do their thing?
For autism, caused mostly by the aluminium in the jabs, check into the work of Chris Exley. 40 years of studying this metal and the 37 diseases associated with it. He has shown that drinking water rich in silicic acid can (in some cases) lead to a reduction in the body’s aluminium load. Some kids genuinely recover. A friend of mine in Cleveland OH recovered from Alzheimer’s using this protocol along with exercise and a mostly whole food plant based diet. It took about 6 months.
If ClO2 is somehow involved in the removal of aluminium from the brain then it would be interesting to see the science. But I don’t expect to see that. BTW we know it’s aluminium because the brains of adolescents unfortunate enough to die with this condition were analyzed by Chris Exley’s team and found to have very high levels of Al in the glial cells, versus healthy brain controls.
A good book about illness is “What Really Makes You Ill” published in 2019. Also "Virus Mania" and "Can You Catch a Cold?” To read about the myth of safe and effective vaccinations “Dissolving Illusions". Exley's book is "Imagine You Are An Aluminum Atom"
It doesn’t directly “remove” aluminum/metals as you say, but apparently neutralizes them which allows them to be dislodged and gotten rid of
So "gotten rid of" is the scientific term for remove. I'll make a note of that. The key is how do you measure success? With silicic acid it is detecting a rise in aluminum in the urine. If ClO2 is working then aluminum should also spike in the urine. BTW Brett I checked retention times of ClO2 and google finds 72 hours - but I suppose that depends on the initial concentration. ClO2 is so reactive that I doubt if arrives in its virgin form to the brain where the aluminum is lodged. There will be all kinds of CL02 metabolites running around. If I am wrong and you had aluminum hydroxide reacting directly with ClO2 then the reaction product is aluminum chlorate. Aluminum chlorate is toxic due to its ability to interfere with the blood's ability to carry oxygen and cause damage to the kidneys and other organ. Out of the frying pan and .........
interesting. Thanks for your comment. So, I did some more digging. Turns out that ClO2 degrades into chloride ions within 1-2 hours. The chloride ions are eliminated within 24-72 hours. Here's where I was wrong on another comment elsewhere: chloride ions do not readily bind to aluminum because aluminum is tightly bound to proteins and organic molecules like citrate and transferrin. This makes it very stable (perhaps why it is so difficult to detoxify?). A quick search online and it turns out that 1) free aluminum ions are not readily found in the body, 2) because Chloride ions are excreted relatively quickly, they do not bind to aluminum, and 3) there’s minimal scientific evidence suggesting biologically meaningful or stable complexes between chloride ions from chlorine dioxide and aluminum ions within human tissues or fluids.
The plot thickens....
Brett, I doubt if it's chloride (CL-1). More likely chlorite ion which is CL02- In order to explain this extra electron it must have been stolen from an electron donor like a water molecule. So let's do a google.... "When chlorine dioxide (ClO₂) dissolves in water, it breaks down into chlorite ions (ClO₂⁻) and a proton (H⁺), represented by the formula: ClO₂ + H₂O → ClO₂⁻ + H⁺. "
This proton is probably attached to a water molecule as in H3O+. So this would be acidic. On another note I just checked Exley's book pg 114 to see what form aluminum might be in the brain. He proposes (ALO2)2+. (proven only in computer simulations) Further he says that much of the damage is oxidative. So what are we doing using a powerful oxidant like ClO2 to remove an oxidant? Pg 115 gets a bit geeky but suggests copper could be protective.
In the studies I've looked at, 87% is broken down into chloride ions and 11% into chlorite ions. Chloride ions are highly soluble and abundant, and usually remain free in solution as electrolytes, maintaining ionic balance and acid-base regulation, water balance and electrical conductivity. As. for as the AL ions and the oxidant/antioxidant discussion goes, this is something I would have to look into. It gets super technical and right now, defending chlorine dioxide is not a top priority for me. We have much bigger fish to fry so to speak.
A chelator of aluminum is probably the correct term here. I’m not sure what “neutralization” of aluminum is technically speaking. Do you have more info on that?
Thanks for your comments. I’ve had the pleasure of interviewing Chris 2 or 3 times over the years and know Suzanne Humphries’ work well. I’ve also been raising awareness around vaccine risks for many years now; long before the PLANdemic.
I don’t have time to get in the weeds here. I don’t live in a world of absolutes either. Everything is nuanced, and in the true spirit of holistic health and the “terrain model”, every case is slightly different from one another.
Re CD: this dissipates in under 45 mins so there’s no long term disruption of redox reactions. Also, Kerri is not ONLY using CD in her protocols. She is addressing the whole and the individual on a case by case basis.
Re AL: while Exley proved that AL conversations were highest in autistic brains, this is not the whole picture. We have to consider the downstream impacts of AL in brain (and by extension) body function. Why do autistic individuals improve so significantly when they go gluten-free? Or dairy free? Or carnivore? Long term research with scientists friends of mine have shown radical improvements with long term supplementing of sulfurophane (broccoli extract). Why is this? None of these things directly affects AL in the body.
Re silicon rich water: Exley has said that based on STUDIES, silicon rich water binds to AL. He’s also said that 1) this is great for prevention and 2) this is a safe, slow method for detoxification (not fast). There’s also only one brand that has sufficient amounts of silicon, which is Fuji brand (not available everywhere). You have to be very consistent over long periods which is not doable for most people. I think you get the idea.
I’m not going to get into the whole germ theory debate here suffice to say that when microbes are out of balance due to terrain disruptions, they release toxins and metabolic byproducts which wreak havoc on the body. My approach as a clinician has always been to strengthen the terrain while also getting microbe levels under control at the same time. Again, there is a LONG conversation here with plenty nuance so please don’t misconstrue or misrepresent what I’m saying here (unfortunately quite pervasive in the “health freedom” movement). Cheers
As far as the dietary changes benefiting autism I remember Andy Wakefield saying that the autistic child's gut microbiome after the MMR was severely disrupted. e.g. Constipation, diarrhoea & blood in the feces. Perhaps the dietary changes you mention are helping the gut to heal and therefore benefiting the brain downstream? Maybe this is irrelevant... "Gluten free" reminds me.....according to 40 studies Tom Cowan was discussing in 2022, "vitamin D" supplement toxicity includes celiac disease, disruption of the gut microbiome and an increase in the absorption of toxic metals including aluminium. Kids are getting a very complicated toxic cocktail that makes it hard to track down root causes. Was it the jab or the prenatal supplements or an interaction? I pity the kids getting jabbed with aluminium then dosed with cholecalciferol washed down with fluoride in the water. Cheers
There is a lot going on with autistic kids. You are absolutely correct when you say a "toxic cocktail". Vaccines (and their ingredients) are one component of this but then you also have the RoundUp (glyphosate) picture. Dr Senneff has done some painstaking research in this area. The increased use of RoundUp plots perfectly with the increased rates of autism. Disruptions to the gut microbiome are huge too. There is also the question of MTHFR SNP's. I think this is where uncontrolled inflammation, poor detoxification, and a host of other health effects come in. All that to say that a multi-pronged, holistic approach is truly the way forward here. We must use all the tools available to us.
Thanks for the response. Exley has also said that aluminium is in every cell in the body. My grandson was borderline autistic - the worst symptom was screaming loudly and violent outbursts. Socially he was OK and no OCD. He has been drinking a mineral water here (Germany) called Bad Brambacher which has about 35 mg/L of silicic acid (Volvic and one particular brand of Gerolsteiner also good). So at the age of 8 now the outbursts are almost gone. Just a bit loud when he is very tired. Rather than broccoli extract we make sure he gets his greens (he is a little "Kraut" after all). I have been enjoying some of Daniel Roytas recent talks about vitamin supplements, parasites and molds. Also Roman Bystrianyk has been turning the Dissolving IIlusions" book into bite sized videos....we have not really come very far in our thinking since 1796 when people thought it was a good idea to scratch pus from animals and corpses into our skin to prevent disease. Cheers
Amazing! Thanks for sharing the story about your grandson. There is so much that we can do. As mentioned above, a holistic, multi-pronged approach is key. And the first step in that is cleaning up the influx of garbage coming into the body.
Back in 90s chlorox baths were popular.... a cup to a tub,,,,, many miracle cures and cheap..... wonder how this relates ti CD.